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  • So I’m building a new PC because my laptop is dying a slow and painful death.  I have to be a cheapass with this build because I’m a jobless college student, so I only have a $350-400 budget.

    This is my first time building a PC so I’m not 100% sure about a couple of PC parts.  My main question is whether I should get a dual core or a quad core processor.  I tend to play lighter-load games so I don’t need anything ultra-powerful, but I also like to stream games from time to time and I’m not 100% sure how significant of a role processors play in this.  I’m thinking of going with the Intel Pentium 3258 anniversary edition since it supports overclocking and it’s pretty cheap.

    Here’s a link to the build if anyone wants to see it: http://amzn.com/w/2N851PTJLM0WV

    I’m still not sure if I want to go dual core or quad core.  Anyone here have any suggestions for changes?



  • So I’m building a new PC because my laptop is dying a slow and painful death.  I have to be a cheapass with this build because I’m a jobless college student, so I only have a $350-400 budget.

    This is my first time building a PC so I’m not 100% sure about a couple of PC parts.  My main question is whether I should get a dual core or a quad core processor.  I tend to play lighter-load games so I don’t need anything ultra-powerful, but I also like to stream games from time to time and I’m not 100% sure how significant of a role processors play in this.  I’m thinking of going with the Intel Pentium 3258 anniversary edition since it supports overclocking and it’s pretty cheap.

    Here’s a link to the build if anyone wants to see it: http://amzn.com/w/2N851PTJLM0WV

    I’m still not sure if I want to go dual core or quad core.  Anyone here have any suggestions for changes?



  • I have the g3258 at 4.4ghz on the stock cooler and a budget bundled motherboard. It has amazing single core performance for something like gmod, but newer games are beginning to favor more cores.
    Traditionally the CPU grabs the frames from GPU framebuffer and encodes it into a h264 video, so it is processor dependent.
    Nvidia has a thing called shadowplay that uses hardware acceleration on the GPU to encode, so it is not as CPU heavy now.
    http://www.geforce.com/geforce-experience/shadowplay

    Some suggestions.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.2488880 // similar mobo + cpu for less than amazon prices, $100
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231455 // 7 more dollars to double the ram. $30
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822149382 // considering many modern games are in the 30 to 50gb range, extra space is nice. $40
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820173011 // Could get this instead of the hard drive. Luxury for budget builds but very nice to have, $35 over budget. $75
    http://www.amazon.com/Nvidia-Accelerator-passive-cooling-900-22080-0000-000/dp/B00Q7O7PQA // Get at least two
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00H33SFJU // favorite budget psu, $38

    if you picked that case purely because it was the cheapest on amazon, look through here for more choices at the same price. At this price point they all cut corners quite a bit anyway.
    http://www.newegg.com/Computer-Cases/SubCategory/ID-7?Order=PRICE
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147123 // same case at newegg $30

    This will duck you right under 400. Ill assume you know how to install windows from usb and skip the cd drive.
    Can’t find any good deals on gpu right now, I’ll add more if you aren’t planning to buy immediately. Black Friday just ended and new sales haven’t started, so the prices are a little inflated at the moment.

    If you can throw a little more money on it, I would recommend you this.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.2495473



  • I just built a Frankenstein for $290
    i3 4170 free
    Refurbished 960 GTX
    Refurbished 1150 board
    120gb ssd
    450w psu free
    4gb ram
    DIYPC case



  • DIY PC case

    I’m afraid to ask




  • its a brand



  • @Sun:

    Ill assume you know how to install windows from usb and skip the cd drive.

    Yep I know how, I had to do this the first time my laptop kicked the bucket and needed reviving.  Its a good thing my major’s department provides us with free windows keys or I think I’d have to run Linux.

    Those are good suggestions, I may go with those instead of the build I had earlier



  • 150$ will get you a R9 380 which is a great deal
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150732&cm_re=r9_380--14-150-732--Product

    Also an AMD processor will probably be better in your budget, and buy used stuff.

    http://pcpartpicker.com/p/V2LgGX



  • But thats 125 dollar over budget before rebate

    R9 380 has near identical performance to gtx 960 depending on the game with moderately worse power and temperature.
    Its a viable alternative if you prefer AMD but I still recommend 960 at the same price



  • If you’re looking for value:  http://pcpartpicker.com/p/g3Q8gs

    Replace the graphics card to something that fits the max end of your budget, if you do that though go for a bigger power supply.

    I would also recomend pcpartpicker.com as a means of building a PC. I found it saved me a lot of money when I did mine.



  • Don’t let the core count fool you into thinking more cores are always going to be better, take a look through this article.
    http://www.techspot.com/review/1017-best-budget-gaming-cpu/

    That review compares the g3258 and x4 860k in both stock and max oc configuration. As a bonus, it also compares the R9 285 (rebranded and identical to R9 380) against the GTX 960.
    “Most of the games saw the Athlon X4 860K working all four cores at 70% capacity or greater, with a few such as Civilization: Beyond Earth, Thief, Battlefield Hardline and Battlefield 4 reaching 90%. Despite that, in all of those games the Pentium G3258 was as fast or faster than the Athlon X4 860K.”

    The graphs show gtx 960 is moderately faster in most games, and slightly slower on a few other. Both are about $180 before rebate.

    All the tests were run on ultra/very high settings and they all managed to stay above 30 fps(minus Arma), so I believe the G3258 + gtx 960 setup will work out pretty good.
    You could downgrade to R7 370 if you don’t mind lowering the graphics settings, turning this into a $350 build.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150735



  • They do trade blows in most games, but i will say that if you enjoy skyrim/fallout that a 4gb 380 is $160 (After rebate, no reason you shouldn’t do it) and those games love v-ram. Do you have a microcenter/NCIX type store near where you live? They have better deals than NewEgg on proc/mobo combos.

    Edit: 380 link http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131673&cm_re=380--14-131-673--Product



  • Intel from my experience - wrecked AMD. I will say; as a user of a lot of shit. Without overclocking - newer Celerons performed near-identical to Pentiums in games.



  • The one in your post isn’t 4gb. It comes down to whats on sale that day. gtx 960 4gb often comes down to $160 range, same for R9 380. Not a big enough factor to go out of your way for.
    The first gtx 960 I posted had rebates as well, and both end up at the same price of $150. Regardless, I avoid factoring in rebates to better represent the upfront price the user will have to pay at the counter. No reason to get swindled into thinking you are spending less, bonus if rebate comes through 3 month later.

    Definitely visit Microcenter if you have one nearby, their combo deals are unbeatable.



  • @Sun:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127844 // Better alternative gpu for $20 over budget, recommended unless you must stay under 400. $180 -updated after change in price

    I assume they want to play games and not just be able to view videos at 1080p.


 

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