Ban Request: Miles Ullman and Marshall Greene.



  • Your BYOND key:Murazor
    Your IC name: Sean Isaman
    Your job: Captain
    The offenders BYOND key (if known): Unknown
    The offenders ingame name: Miles Ullman and Marshall Greene
    The offenders job: Both were security officers.
    Date/Time of incident: 17/06/2013 - 5:40ish PM
    Your story: (screenshots and concise chat log snippets can help)

    Alrighty, so, I spawn in as a captain when I get a report of one of our security officers in-trouble in dorms, me and the HoS go there to find Marshall Greene killing the sec officer while being both implanted and a sec officer himself. A few rounds are exchanged from tazers and his friend Miles Ullman who was also an implanted security officer shows up at the same time and tazes both me and the HoS. They proceed to lethal the HoS to death, and steal my ID to run to the armory. I bring the HoS to med-bay and go to look for them before being tazed and lethal’d in the armory then spaced.

    Sean Isaman  [145.9] says, " AI, door"
    Sean Isaman says, " AI, door"
    Alex Pawn  [145.9] says, " AI OPEN"
    Alex Pawn  [145.9] says, " Please"
    Alex Pawn says, " Please"
    Marshall Greene fires the taser gun!
    Marshall Greene fires the taser gun!
    Alex Pawn fires the energy gun!
    Corpus Hermes  [145.9] says, "CLONING IS AGAINST GOD"
    Marshall Greene fires the energy gun!
    Black Dynamite is hit by the electrode in the head!
    Marshall Greene fires the energy gun!
    You fire the energy gun!
    Sean Isaman is hit by the electrode in the head!
    Marshall Greene is hit by the electrode in the chest!
    Alex Pawn fires the energy gun!
    Corpus Hermes  [145.9] says, "GOD DIDNT INTEND FOR US TO BE CLONED"
    Alex Pawn fires the energy gun!
    Miles Ullman fires the taser gun!
    Alex Pawn is hit by the electrode in the right arm!
    Miles Ullman fires the taser gun!
    Black Dynamite stammers, ":P-P-P"
    Miles Ullman fires the energy gun!
    Miles Ullman fires the energy gun!
    Alex Pawn is hit by the laser in the chest!
    Miles Ullman fires the energy gun!
    Alex Pawn is hit by the laser in the chest!
    Miles Ullman fires the energy gun!
    Alex Pawn is hit by the laser in the chest!
    Miles Ullman fires the energy gun!
    Alex Pawn is hit by the laser in the chest!
    Miles Ullman fires the energy gun!
    Alex Pawn is hit by the laser in the chest!
    Miles Ullman fires the energy gun!
    Alex Pawn is hit by the laser in the chest!
    Beep Boop  [145.9] states, "Allen Chapman has signed up as Assistant."
    Miles Ullman fires the taser gun!
    Alex Pawn is hit by the electrode in the chest!
    Vanellope Von Schweetz  [145.9] says, " Then stop sucking at being alive"
    You fire the energy gun!
    Unknown has been struck in the chest with energy gun by Black Dynamite!
    You fire the energy gun!
    You fire the energy gun!
    You fire the energy gun!
    You fire the energy gun!
    You fire the energy gun!
    You fire the energy gun!
    You fire the energy gun!
    You put the the energy gun into the captain’s satchel.
    Uland Davies  [145.9] says, " Miner killed the HoP"
    Mr. Epsilon  [145.9] says, " ai track me"
    You prime the flashbang! 5 seconds!
    Uland Davies  [145.9] says, " Outside scape"
    Sean Isaman has thrown the flashbang.
    Black Dynamite has been hit by the flashbang.
    Mr. Epsilon  [145.9] says, " lanny bringih is stealing sec items"
    Mr. Epsilon  [145.9] says, " from cargo"
    Mr. Epsilon  [145.9] says, " he just went into maint"
    Vanellope Von Schweetz  [145.9] asks, " Miner? Can I get some bonus access?"
    Miles Ullman fires the taser gun!
    Sean Isaman is hit by the electrode in the chest!
    Marshall Greene fires the energy gun!
    Alex Pawn is hit by the laser in the head!
    Marshall Greene fires the energy gun!
    Alex Pawn is hit by the laser in the head!
    Marshall Greene fires the energy gun!
    Alex Pawn is hit by the laser in the head!
    Marshall Greene fires the energy gun!
    Alex Pawn is hit by the laser in the head!
    Marshall Greene fires the energy gun!
    Alex Pawn is hit by the laser in the head!
    Marshall Greene fires the energy gun!
    Alex Pawn is hit by the laser in the head!
    Marshall Greene fires the energy gun!
    Alex Pawn is hit by the laser in the head!
    Marshall Greene fires the energy gun!
    Alex Pawn is hit by the laser in the head!
    Marshall Greene fires the energy gun!
    Alex Pawn is hit by the laser in the head

    Armory Part:

    Miles Ullman fires the energy gun!
    Sean Isaman (as Alex Pawn) is hit by the electrode in the chest!
    Miles Ullman fires the energy gun!
    Miles Ullman fires the energy gun!
    Sean Isaman (as Alex Pawn) is hit by the laser in the chest!
    Miles Ullman fires the energy gun!
    Sean Isaman (as Alex Pawn) is hit by the laser in the chest!
    Miles Ullman fires the energy gun!
    Sean Isaman (as Alex Pawn) is hit by the laser in the chest!
    Miles Ullman fires the energy gun!
    Sean Isaman (as Alex Pawn) is hit by the laser in the chest!
    Black Dynamite  [145.9] says, "AI LET ME OUT"
    Miles Ullman fires the energy gun!
    Sean Isaman (as Alex Pawn) is hit by the laser in the chest!
    Miles Ullman fires the energy gun!
    That’s a floor.
    Miles Ullman fires the energy gun!
    Sean Isaman (as Alex Pawn) is hit by the laser in the chest!
    Miles Ullman fires the energy gun!
    Sean Isaman (as Alex Pawn) is hit by the laser in the chest!
    –-------
    This is  Miles Ullman!
    He is wearing  a security officer’s jumpsuit with  an engineering guard armband.
    He is wearing  a helmet on his head.
    He is wearing  Ablative Armor Vest.
    He has  a security backpack on his back.
    He is holding  an energy gun in his right hand.
    He has  a security belt about his waist.
    He is wearing  some jackboots on his feet.
    He is wearing  PDA-Miles Ullman (Security Officer).

    The place where the warden and HoS were killed by Marshall Greene and Miles Ullman



  • Your BYOND key:Murazor
    Your IC name: Sean Isaman
    Your job: Captain
    The offenders BYOND key (if known): Unknown
    The offenders ingame name: Miles Ullman and Marshall Greene
    The offenders job: Both were security officers.
    Date/Time of incident: 17/06/2013 - 5:40ish PM
    Your story: (screenshots and concise chat log snippets can help)

    Alrighty, so, I spawn in as a captain when I get a report of one of our security officers in-trouble in dorms, me and the HoS go there to find Marshall Greene killing the sec officer while being both implanted and a sec officer himself. A few rounds are exchanged from tazers and his friend Miles Ullman who was also an implanted security officer shows up at the same time and tazes both me and the HoS. They proceed to lethal the HoS to death, and steal my ID to run to the armory. I bring the HoS to med-bay and go to look for them before being tazed and lethal’d in the armory then spaced.

    Sean Isaman  [145.9] says, " AI, door"
    Sean Isaman says, " AI, door"
    Alex Pawn  [145.9] says, " AI OPEN"
    Alex Pawn  [145.9] says, " Please"
    Alex Pawn says, " Please"
    Marshall Greene fires the taser gun!
    Marshall Greene fires the taser gun!
    Alex Pawn fires the energy gun!
    Corpus Hermes  [145.9] says, "CLONING IS AGAINST GOD"
    Marshall Greene fires the energy gun!
    Black Dynamite is hit by the electrode in the head!
    Marshall Greene fires the energy gun!
    You fire the energy gun!
    Sean Isaman is hit by the electrode in the head!
    Marshall Greene is hit by the electrode in the chest!
    Alex Pawn fires the energy gun!
    Corpus Hermes  [145.9] says, "GOD DIDNT INTEND FOR US TO BE CLONED"
    Alex Pawn fires the energy gun!
    Miles Ullman fires the taser gun!
    Alex Pawn is hit by the electrode in the right arm!
    Miles Ullman fires the taser gun!
    Black Dynamite stammers, ":P-P-P"
    Miles Ullman fires the energy gun!
    Miles Ullman fires the energy gun!
    Alex Pawn is hit by the laser in the chest!
    Miles Ullman fires the energy gun!
    Alex Pawn is hit by the laser in the chest!
    Miles Ullman fires the energy gun!
    Alex Pawn is hit by the laser in the chest!
    Miles Ullman fires the energy gun!
    Alex Pawn is hit by the laser in the chest!
    Miles Ullman fires the energy gun!
    Alex Pawn is hit by the laser in the chest!
    Miles Ullman fires the energy gun!
    Alex Pawn is hit by the laser in the chest!
    Beep Boop  [145.9] states, "Allen Chapman has signed up as Assistant."
    Miles Ullman fires the taser gun!
    Alex Pawn is hit by the electrode in the chest!
    Vanellope Von Schweetz  [145.9] says, " Then stop sucking at being alive"
    You fire the energy gun!
    Unknown has been struck in the chest with energy gun by Black Dynamite!
    You fire the energy gun!
    You fire the energy gun!
    You fire the energy gun!
    You fire the energy gun!
    You fire the energy gun!
    You fire the energy gun!
    You fire the energy gun!
    You put the the energy gun into the captain’s satchel.
    Uland Davies  [145.9] says, " Miner killed the HoP"
    Mr. Epsilon  [145.9] says, " ai track me"
    You prime the flashbang! 5 seconds!
    Uland Davies  [145.9] says, " Outside scape"
    Sean Isaman has thrown the flashbang.
    Black Dynamite has been hit by the flashbang.
    Mr. Epsilon  [145.9] says, " lanny bringih is stealing sec items"
    Mr. Epsilon  [145.9] says, " from cargo"
    Mr. Epsilon  [145.9] says, " he just went into maint"
    Vanellope Von Schweetz  [145.9] asks, " Miner? Can I get some bonus access?"
    Miles Ullman fires the taser gun!
    Sean Isaman is hit by the electrode in the chest!
    Marshall Greene fires the energy gun!
    Alex Pawn is hit by the laser in the head!
    Marshall Greene fires the energy gun!
    Alex Pawn is hit by the laser in the head!
    Marshall Greene fires the energy gun!
    Alex Pawn is hit by the laser in the head!
    Marshall Greene fires the energy gun!
    Alex Pawn is hit by the laser in the head!
    Marshall Greene fires the energy gun!
    Alex Pawn is hit by the laser in the head!
    Marshall Greene fires the energy gun!
    Alex Pawn is hit by the laser in the head!
    Marshall Greene fires the energy gun!
    Alex Pawn is hit by the laser in the head!
    Marshall Greene fires the energy gun!
    Alex Pawn is hit by the laser in the head!
    Marshall Greene fires the energy gun!
    Alex Pawn is hit by the laser in the head

    Armory Part:

    Miles Ullman fires the energy gun!
    Sean Isaman (as Alex Pawn) is hit by the electrode in the chest!
    Miles Ullman fires the energy gun!
    Miles Ullman fires the energy gun!
    Sean Isaman (as Alex Pawn) is hit by the laser in the chest!
    Miles Ullman fires the energy gun!
    Sean Isaman (as Alex Pawn) is hit by the laser in the chest!
    Miles Ullman fires the energy gun!
    Sean Isaman (as Alex Pawn) is hit by the laser in the chest!
    Miles Ullman fires the energy gun!
    Sean Isaman (as Alex Pawn) is hit by the laser in the chest!
    Black Dynamite  [145.9] says, "AI LET ME OUT"
    Miles Ullman fires the energy gun!
    Sean Isaman (as Alex Pawn) is hit by the laser in the chest!
    Miles Ullman fires the energy gun!
    That’s a floor.
    Miles Ullman fires the energy gun!
    Sean Isaman (as Alex Pawn) is hit by the laser in the chest!
    Miles Ullman fires the energy gun!
    Sean Isaman (as Alex Pawn) is hit by the laser in the chest!
    –-------
    This is  Miles Ullman!
    He is wearing  a security officer’s jumpsuit with  an engineering guard armband.
    He is wearing  a helmet on his head.
    He is wearing  Ablative Armor Vest.
    He has  a security backpack on his back.
    He is holding  an energy gun in his right hand.
    He has  a security belt about his waist.
    He is wearing  some jackboots on his feet.
    He is wearing  PDA-Miles Ullman (Security Officer).

    The place where the warden and HoS were killed by Marshall Greene and Miles Ullman



  • I was the HOS at the time and I can vouch that this was all true. However there was some confusion at the time because the killer stole a security guards clothing.



  • Do you know if either of them were antags or not?



  • @SirMichael:

    Do you know if either of them were antags or not?

    They were both loyalty implanted, it’s nigh-impossible for them to be antagonist, seeing as nobody uses the HoS’ lockbox.



  • @LoneSoldier55:

    They were both loyalty implanted, it’s nigh-impossible for them to be antagonist, seeing as nobody uses the HoS’ lockbox.

    Oh, I totally missed that part of the description Eagle gave. Nevermind.



  • Loyalty implanted guys can be Cultists…



  • they can also be traitors, lings, wizards and ninja’s.

    loyality implants only stop you from being a rev, or a player who has not been converted into a cultist during a cult round.



  • hey mate i made a ban request a while back and an admin told me nobody is gonna do shit because unless you are sure they arent antagonists by the end of the game the complaint loses its liability. i know that theyre both sec (i made my complaint against sec too) but when an admin looks over this mess hes not gonna bother doing anything unless you make it easy for them. my advise is next time you get fucked just wait till the round ends to get proof.

    just look at all the ban requests here, you get the idea that admins dont do shit unless its blatant ass grief with slideshows



  • @Swagile:

    they can also be traitors, lings, wizards and ninja’s.

    loyality implants only stop you from being a rev, or a player who has not been converted into a cultist during a cult round.

    Security officers last I checked can not spawn as antags, and this was about five minutes into the round. Both the loyalty implant boxes were untouched, so they both spawned as sec and no, neither of them were antags at the end of the round.



  • I have seen rev heads with loyalty implants before. Not sure how that happened.



  • @Lord:

    I have seen rev heads with loyalty implants before. Not sure how that happened.

    Admins probably.



  • @Lord:

    I have seen rev heads with loyalty implants before. Not sure how that happened.

    That is either a serious bug or a admin fuckery.



  • Loyalty implants do nothing. It does in no way stop people from being antags other than revs. If it did, why would every single article on jobs have a “how to traitor” section, considering most of sec spawns implanted.



  • @torrasque666:

    Loyalty implants do nothing. It does in no way stop people from being antags other than revs. If it did, why would every single article on jobs have a “how to traitor” section, considering most of sec spawns implanted.

    Security can’t spawn as traitor, its turned off on Noxstation. I was using the loyalty implant to show they spawned as sec.



  • I’m pretty sure I’ve spawned as a sec-traitor on Nox before…



  • A while back it was possible, but not anymore…



  • anyone who spawns at round start with a loyality implant (captain, hos, warden (i think), and all sec officers), CANNOT be a traitor / ling / rev / cultist. they can, however, be a wizard, and I think something else.



  • @torrasque666:

    I’m pretty sure I’ve spawned as a sec-traitor on Nox before…

    You haven’t or it was a very short lived bug. Been on nox ever since liberty died a cold death of a ddos. The only exception is if your hop and mistaking it for security(The reason I will never trust a hop, if he leaves his office hes probably up to some traitory if he doesn’t go back asap). Detective, Sec, Sec Heads are all immune to antag spawns. Implants after spawn stop cult conversion and rev. Of all my time playing I have yet to see a traitor with an implant unless it was forced upon them by a head.



  • It was while Liberty Station was still up, so I dunno how long ago that was.


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