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ZS - Moving hammer on worth list


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    Remove hammer from worth menu and make it so that like 15 per cent of players are randomly given a hammer when they spawn.

    You learn to cade best by cading  ;)



  • New players with hammers make rounds a lot more interesting. Why would it be fun if everything went according to plan all the time?



  • @CMasta:

    New players with hammers make rounds a lot more interesting. Why would it be fun if everything went according to plan all the time?

    I agree with this, as much as I rage at them they are the main thing which makes ZS fun.


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    @CMasta:

    New players with hammers make rounds a lot more interesting. Why would it be fun if everything went according to plan all the time?

    It is quite boring to have a good cade, especially boring for zombies.



  • In a server with 50 or so players, it is common to see around 15 to 20 people getting the carpenter’s hammer according to the worth menu. However, it is very rare to see over 10 of them be used. They seem to either forget they have one, or do not know what the hammer does. Aside from the bad barricade argument, I think they would have more fun shooting than having a hammer that they are not using.



  • This might work, would be easy to do, has zero negative consequences, and is probably worth a try.



  • If you have the impression that newer players getting hammers every round is good for the game you haven’t got a straight head.
    The amount of people who pile props together and just nail them as soon as they can, it’s just ridiculous, and it is the most annoying thing when trying to cade. Calling that “fun” is just stupid



  • I need to revive this post.

    I absolutely love the new cading rules, however the amount of times a game loss happens because  kleiner nails a s-cade together  is really starting to make my blood boil. It makes playing when regulars aren’t around like nails on a chalkboard. Not to mention the repetitive, “OMG YOU DESTORYING CADE!” when you are trying to fix it.

    I would suggest moving hammers down more as well. You have a MUCH higher chance of surviving with 1 good cader, than 8 terrible ones.  I would also suggest allowing mods to pull nails for free, (dunno if this is already the case), so they can fix s-cades without taking a health hit. I would go as far as suggesting regulars have the ability to pull nails for free as well, however I already know someone would abuse that real fast.

    An even better suggestion would be adding an exact tool to the turning menu. When you press alt to “turn” a prop, if you press the WSAD keys it snaps the prop into place, and allows you to incrementally turn each prop 30 degrees. Whipping a prop around with the mouse can be a little difficult when zombos are beating on the the cade. Building a cade faster and more effectively would allow me to run around and cover more cade spots before round starts.



  • Each round there should be a group of players that randomly get given a hammer and have a little square above their head saying barricader.



  • @CryoDragon:

    Each round there should be a group of players that randomly get given a hammer and have a little square above their head saying barricader.

    NO.

    Absolutely not.

    Really bad idea.



  • How about making an achievement that allowed you to buy the hammer that you unlocked after around 100~ round of zs ?



  • @exiorca:

    How about making an achievement that allowed you to buy the hammer that you unlocked after around 100~ round of zs ?

    I think this is an interesting idea! Not sure it should be 100 rounds, but definitely worth thinking about. Would stop the newer people from buying hammers and wasting props barricading a room horribly as a backup, trying to make shit-piles, etc. Only thing it would not solve is elitist asshole caders who treat people who know how to cade like shit and remove their nails like they have the right. Granted sometimes it is warranted and with certain people I’m fine with it, but caders who remove any nail any time for any reason are just annoying. Contrary to some people’s beliefs, I do know how to cade, as I buy a hammer most times to help repair and do a lot of watching to learn people’s methods. I’ve spent a lot of time doing this, and though I don’t always do the best job, I do know what I’m doing.



  • @exiorca:

    How about making an achievement that allowed you to buy the hammer that you unlocked after around 100~ round of zs ?

    How many times has it been said - Old player does not equal good player.



  • Yeah but new player always equals horrific cader.



  • @PureJeenyus:

    Yeah but new player always equals horrific cader.

    This. Oh dear LORD this!



  • I don’t think being bad or good is the problem in this case. Most shit cader problems end up with people have NO absolute idea what they’re doing. Have a 100~ round grace period of them watching and learning how to cade might serve better.



  • The only way new players are going to get good at it is by watching their shitty cades fall to pieces and learning from their mistakes.
    That or they actually stop and listen to what people are telling them. But lets be realistic, we’re talking about the average gmod player here so we all know this isn’t likely to happen.



  • @DR.:

    The only way new players are going to get good at it is by watching their shitty cades fall to pieces and learning from their mistakes.
    That or they actually stop and listen to what people are telling them. But lets be realistic, we’re talking about the average gmod player here so we all know this isn’t likely to happen.

    So true. The biggest problem, in my opinion, is that people just will not stop and listen. Even when you give them advice or tell them how to do something they don’t listen!



  • shit caders are dyslexic and deaf most of the time, when it comes to player complaints.


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